Here we'll discuss the upper body.

I have done two torsos who need some crits I hope they are not too rough, they were done in 1hour or so, that's why they are a little bit loosy. I do them as sketch to learn my anatomy.
I hope it's ok to post these kind of sculpture.

The first torso is really weak at the hips and the deltoids, the second one was done without any references, I really lack of these type of person. I was thinking of a character who looks like Honda from street fighter, Fat but with a visible musculature, I don't think it can exist for real.
So here are they.

I think they look really good. I especially the second one.

The slight stylization on the second torso makes me love it. Its very gestural, and the merging and selection of the forms work strongly in its favor. The abs on the first one look.. too clean, but great sculpts!

This is really good. There are a few things that really stand out for me. Like the way the pectorals connect is not correct. The pectorals (pectoralis major) is basically a big flat muscle that is basically divided into two muscles. They are very fibrous so they may look more muscles. One part (clavicular portion) connects to the clavicle, go across the chest and turns into tendons and connects the humerus (bone of the upper arm). The other part, the (sternocostal portion) conncets to the sternum (chest bone), and as it becomes tendon near the armpits, it winds under the clavicular portion to also connect to the humerus.

The serratus anterior are the little fingerlike muscles that fit into the obliques right near the latisimus dorsi. many people confuse these for ribs. You can tell the difference because the serratus anterior muscles are more horizontal. The obliques are also very often confused for ribs. but you know that they are not ribs because the come down to the abdominals where a thin line seperates them from the abdominals. This line is called the semilunar line. It's very hard to actually see ribs on a musclular guy, but when you do, you know they are ribs because they curve up.

Then the most glaring fault is the abdominal muscles. There is a huge misconception among artists about what the abdominals (rectus abdominis) are. The abdominals are really two long muscles. One on either side.The fith sixth and seventh ribs are connected to the bottom of the sternum via cartilages and the top of the abdominals connect to these cartilages. On the bottom it connects to the pubic crest of the pubic bone. The two rectus abdominus muscles are are seperated in the middle by a line of tendon called the linea alba. The horizontal lines that seperate the muscles into sixpacks are tendonus sort of fibers. The are unique for each person and the don't necessarily line up on either side. They can be straight across, they can angle up or down, they can angle up on one side of the stomach and down on the other, they can even be zig zaggy across. They can be set up in a way that some of the bulges of the six pack are very small or very large. And they can be at different levels for each human being. But the important thing to remember is that the abdominals are really two long muscles that start at the pubic bone and go all the way up to the bottom of the sternum. And that the divisions (six packs) are cause by three horizontal tendinous intersections that can have infinite variety to how the cut across the abdominal muscles. So don't be afraid to really make the abdominals very asymmetrical.

I think since you came here first, I'm gonna skip the order of things and we'll discuss the torso as soon as possible, because I think that is one of the most misunderstood sections of the human body.

As far as the heavy, muscley guy goes, I think you can find good reference on this kind of guy if you look at heavyweight weight-lifters, sumo wrestlers, and heavy-weight greco-roman wrestlers. These are the closest guys to this fatty yet muscley physique.

here is a mark over. I hope you don't mind I worked over your study

Thank you mookiemu, that's a great explanation, I will have to look at these point more accurately when I'm sculpting.
And there is no need to apologize for the paintover, If I am here it's to learn, so that's the perfect thing I can wish for.

hey everyone,I finally have something to post in the best section of this forum, here is the first of a series of anatomy studies :


More views : http://sriramatrix.3dnitz.com/anatomy/m ... sculpt.jpg

Levels from mudbox : http://sriramatrix.3dnitz.com/anatomy/m ... levels.gif

Its an attempt at steering away from my usual hulkedupsuperhuman musculature. I wanted to make an average,healthy male [25,Asian]. This is my first attempt at sculpting a real human,and I initially based most of the structure on Hongo Le's[for those who have access to 3d.sk], but from a point I started taking it in a personal direction; I wanted get a fleshy,realistic feel

I would love to hear what you guys think,and any feedback is highly appreciated !

@mookie: Thanks for your suggestion about experimenting,this torso is the first one

srira, this is beautiful! no crits from me except to say it could use a little asymetry. Love it!

Thanks Ricky ! very glad that you like it I'll keep the asymmetry in mind on the new personal character that I'm currently working on

i'm really glad that i joined this forum, it have so much info about anatomy in just one place, and the people in it try so hard to help each other it's simply wonderful.

Hello everyone, well im working on this model that i'm having some problems in the torso, it seem his abs are to aligned and like a comic book character .
Im not trying to aproach realism here because he is a character need some strong muscles but even that way it doesn't seem right atm seem kinda mechanic.
Well like i sayed im trying to learn anatomy so sorry if i couldn't express it the best way but i guess you will see what im trying to say much better then me.

First off, don't overdo it with the forms. Even with muscular humans, the transitions in forms are smooth.
Try going down a level and define the silhouettes of the shapes. Use barrels, balls and cylinders to define your shapes, this works very well and has been a lifesaver for me.

Anatomy wise: I think the big issue here is apparent lack of a ribcage. I'd suggest looking at some pictures from human skeletons and try to visualize how the bones would bend and react in your sculpt.
I think the pectoral area is nice and well defined, but you want to give the shoulders some more love.
Great start, but it surely needs more work.

thanks a lot maph, im gonna do that and i will repost then.

qick study:

Redne:

that is terrific. The back is perfect! I love the way you have the shapes going. They have weight and mass. Fantastic job!

The front is very good too. The rib cage area needs work, though. This is one of the hardest areas in the human body to get right. especially in a muscle man or woman. You've done great work in getting the mass and form of the underlying rib cage and I commend you on that. It's a great base. I think you should get some reference and go back into that area and put a little more time into it. You have done a beautiful job getting the angle and position of the serratus anterior muscles. But now you need to define how the upper external obliques fit into the serratus anterior's finger like muscles. the external obliques are long and they cross over the mouth of the rib cage and connect to the line around the outside of the abdominals called the "Semilunar line". You've done a nice job of depicting the semilunar line, now you have to show how the external obliques connect to it. The upper external obliques are sometimes confused for ribs and that is because they cover over the mouth of the rib cage down to the abs making it very difficult to see the ribs in a muscleman.
Btw, you've done a fantastic job of depicting the lower exernal obliques and the way it connects to the aponeurosis near pelvis region. Spectacular job there.

I think this is a tremendous study!

One more thing, I think it would also benefit from a little asymmetry, but I'm sure you already know that

Good work!

I've been studying anatomy full throttle again. I totally forgot how much fun it was.
So here's mine. The back definately needs more lurv, ditto with the pecs. But it was kind of hard to find references in this pose, so I had to think before doing something for a change.

C&C and/or paintovers are mucho appreciated.

helo everyone pleasure to meet you all!, well why am i here? i found this forum when i was researching about references and i liked it a lot so i decided to join the comunity, hope its everything ok with that:D.
i leave here some recent render of my last anatomy torso study, hope you guys have a little tiny bit of time to critic or comment it, see you guys later thumbs up.



here is another one

heres my upper body C&C are needed